Thursday, October 25, 2007

If you look at the liberal media and you look at the way they describe it, you could say it was torture and you shouldn’t do it

Israel will go ahead with the collective punishment of Gaza by cutting off its electricity. The idea is that after any rocket attack, power will be cut for 15 minutes, increasing over time. Israel says that its designation of the whole territory of Gaza as a “hostile entity” means that it is no longer bound by international law relating to occupied territories. Which is odd, because you’d expect that pretty much every territory covered by those laws because they are occupied militarily by another nation would be at least a little bit, you know, hostile.

Giuliani says he doesn’t know if waterboarding is torture. Evidently, there might be non-tortuous versions of waterboarding with which we are unfamiliar: “It depends on how it’s done. It depends on the circumstances. It depends on who does it...” There’s your key sentence right there – whether an act is torture depends on who does it. “...I think the way it’s been defined in the media, it shouldn’t be done. The way in which they have described it, particularly in the liberal media. ... And I hate to shock anybody with this...” Just can’t help himself, can he? “...but the newspapers don’t always describe it accurately. ... So I’d have to see what they really are doing, not the way some of these liberal newspapers have exaggerated it.” So he doesn’t know what is being done, but he does know that liberal newspapers are exaggerating it.

He went on to say that torture is bad, but “aggressive questioning” is good. He never actually defines aggressive questioning, but later says that he personally used it against Mafia members, and admits that “the line between the two is going to require some really difficult decisions about drawing it”. He went on to say that the president could order “certain things” done to a prisoner to extract information about an imminent nuclear terrorist attack. “The president has to have that kind of leeway. We’ve got to trust our president well enough to allow that.” So once again, it’s a nation of men, not a nation of laws.

He went on (and on and on for more than five minutes – do click on the link to read or watch the video of the whole thing) to say that Democrats even consider sleep deprivation to be torture. “I mean, on that theory, I’m getting tortured running for president of the United States. That’s plain silly. That’s silly.”

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